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i think hagel will be confirmed. on the broader personal issue, any -- there's one of the big differences between a good president and great president is his ability to be able to find common ground with enemies and find a way in which making his mark on history, making his mark on the country can be seen as a win also for the other side, to keep enemies close if not closer than your friends. that's something bill clinton was good at and fdr was great at and lincoln was good at. reagan arguably was good at it with tip o'neill. barack obama had a hard time with that. he doesn't like the back slapping that's required in politics. it's something the public admires in him and one reason why he is so popular generally with the public, that he is seen with a man with a lot of self-confidence and comfortable in his own skin. in this town, any political environment, you have to get to know the other side and empathize with them. it's not one of his greatest ranks so far. >> you point that out today in your piece, learning ho
i think hagel will be confirmed. on the broader personal issue, any -- there's one of the big differences between a good president and great president is his ability to be able to find common ground with enemies and find a way in which making his mark on history, making his mark on the country can be seen as a win also for the other side, to keep enemies close if not closer than your friends. that's something bill clinton was good at and fdr was great at and lincoln was good at. reagan arguably...
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are they trying this with hagel? why is it no matter what this president nominates, they find a reason to fight it. >> i think this is the next front, you know. they didn't do so well on the fiscal cliff. now they've got to find another partisan opening. i think it's a partisan attack. i think it's designed to help them raise money to strengthen their party's position from the mainstream position of the president. >> governor, when you look at john mccane, for example, john mccain says he has concerns about hagel's positions on national security issues today. but in 2006, when he was plotting a run for the presidency, mccain said i'd be honored to have chuck with me in any capacity. he'd make a great secretary of state. same john mccain. mitch mcconnell who says there will be tough questions for hagel. >>> is john mccain just a bitter man because president obama beat him and he's just bitter and keeps attacking whatever the president does and mitch mcconnell is still trying to live up to his saying that will make him
are they trying this with hagel? why is it no matter what this president nominates, they find a reason to fight it. >> i think this is the next front, you know. they didn't do so well on the fiscal cliff. now they've got to find another partisan opening. i think it's a partisan attack. i think it's designed to help them raise money to strengthen their party's position from the mainstream position of the president. >> governor, when you look at john mccane, for example, john mccain...
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>> so much better on gay rights than chuck hagel is. does anyone seriously think that the obama administration, because it has chuck hagel there, is not committed now -- >> it is not just republicans is what i am saying. chuck schumer has been very step tepid in his support for him. >> because chuck schumer, on these types of middle east questions, is closer to lindsay graham and john mccain than he is to in many ways to barack obama. >> many senators, democrats and republicans, are further away than chuck hagel than many senators are. >> listen. how many people agree with your point of view is not the test of that point of view's validity. most people, it turns out in this case, were actually wrong in very, very big ways about critical decisions that costs the u.s. this is what frustrates me when people say chuck hagel is out of the mainstream. the people in congress who had the good sense to oppose the iraq war and raise questions, were out of the mainstream, and darn right, i actually want that in a secretary of defense. somebody who
>> so much better on gay rights than chuck hagel is. does anyone seriously think that the obama administration, because it has chuck hagel there, is not committed now -- >> it is not just republicans is what i am saying. chuck schumer has been very step tepid in his support for him. >> because chuck schumer, on these types of middle east questions, is closer to lindsay graham and john mccain than he is to in many ways to barack obama. >> many senators, democrats and...
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if hagel is confirmed. they'll be forced to spend capital. >> confirmation -- the confirmation process has always been in recent times a knock-down, drag-out bloody battle for the president to get his picks into his cabinet. and coming after losing the presidential election, losing seats in the house and senate, to democrats, the republicans have been looking for a way to ding the president. they were able to ding him by denying him the choice of susan rice, the u.n. ambassador to be the president's next secretary of state. they view going after chuck hagel as being one more notch in this crazy war against the president when a lot of people in the country want congress to focus not so much on chuck hagel as they want them to focus on what's happening with sequester and the budget and debt ceiling and other things that have direct impacts on people's lives. from a policy standpoint, does this come down to bush era neocon, that reminds them that he opposed the war. >> he did oppose the surge. for republicans
if hagel is confirmed. they'll be forced to spend capital. >> confirmation -- the confirmation process has always been in recent times a knock-down, drag-out bloody battle for the president to get his picks into his cabinet. and coming after losing the presidential election, losing seats in the house and senate, to democrats, the republicans have been looking for a way to ding the president. they were able to ding him by denying him the choice of susan rice, the u.n. ambassador to be the...
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he's chuck hagel. >> chuck knows war is not a distraction. he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud, that's something we only do when it's absolutely necessary. my frame of reference, he has said, is geared towards the guy at the bottom who is doing the fighting and the dying. >> senator hagel, though, may not have an easy confirmation. here is the reaction today from senator john mccain, a one-time political ally who once considered hagel as a running mate. i have serious concerns about the positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical issues in recent years which we will fully consider in the course of the confirmation process. he's talking about iran, his willingness to consider cuts to the budget, and perhaps his pro -pro pro-israel support. >> i'm a united states senator, not an israeli senator, but my first interest, i take an oath of office to the constitution. >> lindsey graham said his former colleague would, quote, be the most antagonistic secretary of defense toward israel in the
he's chuck hagel. >> chuck knows war is not a distraction. he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud, that's something we only do when it's absolutely necessary. my frame of reference, he has said, is geared towards the guy at the bottom who is doing the fighting and the dying. >> senator hagel, though, may not have an easy confirmation. here is the reaction today from senator john mccain, a one-time political ally who once considered hagel...
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i think there will be a big fight over hagel. there will be confirmation hearings and suspends will he make it or will he not. i think in the end he will make it. it's unusual for the senate to engage in two major confirmations makess at the same time. >> bret: thank you. >>> concern about president obama getting a third term? it's out there. and if you thought all the drama ended at the fiscal cliff, washington may just be getting started. campbell's has 24 nes that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>. >> bret: wall street did not pick up today where it left off. dow dropped 51, s&p 500 was off 4 1/2. nasdaq lost 3. now that washing has backed away from the fiscal cliff. economic counted down clock is ticking down on the next potential crisis over the debt ceiling and sequester cuts. today an interview that raised eyebrows all over the city especially among republicans. correspondent shannon bream reports
i think there will be a big fight over hagel. there will be confirmation hearings and suspends will he make it or will he not. i think in the end he will make it. it's unusual for the senate to engage in two major confirmations makess at the same time. >> bret: thank you. >>> concern about president obama getting a third term? it's out there. and if you thought all the drama ended at the fiscal cliff, washington may just be getting started. campbell's has 24 nes that will make it...
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hagel refused. he had written to president clinton about this exact case, received a letter from clinton, had a commitment from clinton to make certain actions. hagel was moving privately. they're upset he did not sign on to the letter. because of not banned widening and falling with the tribe, there is the concern of its independence -- bandwagoning and following the tribe, there is a concern about his independence. caller: he was against the sanctions against iran. if he has been advising as president, no one would say we are winning in afghanistan. under obama, 80% of the injuries have occurred in afghanistan. does that sound like we are winning? guest: of me go back for a second. -- let me go back for a second. by talking about, i am not the senator from israel, the problem with that is it suggests that those who have strong strategic view is about the u.s.-israel relationship are somehow in the pocket of israelis. i think that is wrong. there are solid, strategic reasons for the relationship. p
hagel refused. he had written to president clinton about this exact case, received a letter from clinton, had a commitment from clinton to make certain actions. hagel was moving privately. they're upset he did not sign on to the letter. because of not banned widening and falling with the tribe, there is the concern of its independence -- bandwagoning and following the tribe, there is a concern about his independence. caller: he was against the sanctions against iran. if he has been advising as...
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chuck hagel fans. that said president obama has picked hagel. he likes hagel. they're friends going back to their senate tenure. it's hard to imagine if obama really wants hagel ten democratic senators will vote against him. i find that hard to believe. second thing is president obama wants to push for cuts in defense spending. their view is there's no better advocate for it, no better voice for cutting the pentagon that a provincial vietnam veteran like chuck hagel. >> i want to play a clip of what former general stanley mcchrystal said on the "today" show this morning. >> if president obama trusts him, i think senator hagel has the experience. he's certainly got the quality as a person. the real matter is whether the president has that level of trust. that level of trust and relationship between those people and with other members of the cabinet are the most important. >> matt, to perry's point, is a big part of this about the president just likes him? they've gotten along for many years now? >> yeah. he has a very close relationship with vice president joe b
chuck hagel fans. that said president obama has picked hagel. he likes hagel. they're friends going back to their senate tenure. it's hard to imagine if obama really wants hagel ten democratic senators will vote against him. i find that hard to believe. second thing is president obama wants to push for cuts in defense spending. their view is there's no better advocate for it, no better voice for cutting the pentagon that a provincial vietnam veteran like chuck hagel. >> i want to play a...
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let me ask you about chuck hagel. do you have any problem with chuck hagel? >> i've only met him once and i certainly have no problem with him. he certainly has a great record not just as a soldier but as a senator. >> schieffer: let's talk a little bit about afghanistan and this is the longest war and the impact that this war has had on our military. when we're talking about the surge and sending more troops at a man and i heard colon colin powell say look correction we're not sending more troops we're sending the same troops. it's almost as if we have run the military into the ground. these people are exhausted we see suicide's up, we see all of these horrendous things. are you worried about that? >> there are two things that concern me. the first is in the force itself. about a year and-a-half ago a ranger platoon sergeant, and i run it for the ranger was killed. and he was on his 14th tour to combat. now there are tours three or four months long but cumulatively 14 of those is a lot. he had just entered the rangers at 2001 so his entire career his service
let me ask you about chuck hagel. do you have any problem with chuck hagel? >> i've only met him once and i certainly have no problem with him. he certainly has a great record not just as a soldier but as a senator. >> schieffer: let's talk a little bit about afghanistan and this is the longest war and the impact that this war has had on our military. when we're talking about the surge and sending more troops at a man and i heard colon colin powell say look correction we're not...
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so is chuck hagel. i have been at denver's -- eye was the emcee at the nixon senator's dinner -- nixon center's dinner honoring john kyl. chuck hagel was in the room. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we have the capital behind us to have these major discussions. chuck hagel, i think, it was a proud moment. he demonstrated an independence of thought and questioning that i think was vital for the country. host: i want to go to something you said. in terms of what the president said about iraq and afghanistan, saying iraq was the war of choice, afghanistan was a war of necessity. in your view, though, was iraq necessary? if so, why? what did we accomplish? guest: we have not accomplished all that much. it is a debatable question. it depends on a lot of factors that are out of my control. we should not forget that we did get rid of saddam hussein. it was a terrible tyrant to his people and a danger to the region. there
so is chuck hagel. i have been at denver's -- eye was the emcee at the nixon senator's dinner -- nixon center's dinner honoring john kyl. chuck hagel was in the room. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we have the capital behind us to have these major discussions. chuck hagel, i think, it was a proud moment. he demonstrated an independence of thought and questioning that i think was vital for the country....
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hagel will be there for you. finally, chuck represents the bipart sfwlan tradition that we need more of in washington. for his independence and commitment to consensus, he has earned the respect of national security and military leaders, republicans and democrats, including me. m senate i came to admire his courage and his judgment, his willingness to speak his mind, even if it wasn't popular. even if it defied the conventional wisdom. that's exactly the spirit i want on my national security team. when it comes to the defense of our country, we are not democrats or republicans. we are americans. each of us has a responsibility, chuck has said, to be guided not by the interests of our party or our president even, but by the interests of our country. chuck, i thank you, and lily beth for agreeing to serve once more in the interest of our country. now, when i'm on the subject of patriots, let me say a few words about john brennan. in john brennan, the men and women of the cia will have the leadership of one of our n
hagel will be there for you. finally, chuck represents the bipart sfwlan tradition that we need more of in washington. for his independence and commitment to consensus, he has earned the respect of national security and military leaders, republicans and democrats, including me. m senate i came to admire his courage and his judgment, his willingness to speak his mind, even if it wasn't popular. even if it defied the conventional wisdom. that's exactly the spirit i want on my national security...
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you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with susan rice is benghazi. that ties back to the president and hillary clinton. there is -- it's not a perfect scenario. whereas here it's you're opposing hagel and that has nothing do with me. >> susan rice went to the hill, and it did not go well. there was some sort of a dry run, and it did not go well, and there's some sense that she took herself out of the nomination as well. we can't with stand this. how much do you think hagel's comments about richard hormel, i believe, who was going to serve as the u.s. ambassador to lucks emberg and questioned h
you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with...
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my concern is after hagel and i think hagel will probably get confirmed after the hearings, after hagel, who's to follow? what is the trail of people who do have combat experience? who will follow hagel? i'm concerned about this. >> let's bring you in and transition from hagel because you have a lot of progressives and even actually today one republican and we'll play the sound a little bit later wondering whether or not john brennan is getting some kind of a pass here. there was a protest yesterday outside of the white house. not about chuck hagel but john brennan, the role in the bush administration regarding aggressive interrogation techniques, his role regarding the drone missions that continued through the obama administration as politico points out today, even reviving this dispute over leaks or alleged leaks out of the white house. are we not paying enough attention to brennan when, again, there were actual protests outside the white house yesterday regarding his nomination? >> well, in terms of the confirmation process, what doesn't -- protests outside the white house matter a l
my concern is after hagel and i think hagel will probably get confirmed after the hearings, after hagel, who's to follow? what is the trail of people who do have combat experience? who will follow hagel? i'm concerned about this. >> let's bring you in and transition from hagel because you have a lot of progressives and even actually today one republican and we'll play the sound a little bit later wondering whether or not john brennan is getting some kind of a pass here. there was a...
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president obama nominated senator hagel despite early attempts by hagel critics to sideline the nomination. the president praised hagel for his impressive credentials. >> he is an american patriot. he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. as a young private and then a sergeant, he served with honor alongside his own brother. when chuck was hit by shrapnel, his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, chuck risked his life to pull him to safety. >> and there is much more. hagel is a decorated combat veteran and would be the first enlisted man to serve as secretary of defense, as well as the first vietnam veteran to take the post. hagel served on the senate foreign relations committee, and also on the intelligence committee in the senate. he led the veterans administration. he headed the uso. he studied under the gi bill, and then helped pass it after 9/11. and he is a successful businessman who knows the bottom line. now listen to what republican senator lindsey graham had to say about his former lunch partner. >> chuck hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of de
president obama nominated senator hagel despite early attempts by hagel critics to sideline the nomination. the president praised hagel for his impressive credentials. >> he is an american patriot. he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. as a young private and then a sergeant, he served with honor alongside his own brother. when chuck was hit by shrapnel, his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, chuck risked his life to pull him to safety. >> and...
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you talk about chuck hagel. what chuck hagel's role in all of that, if et wants to be secretary of defense. it's a complicated issue, and it's more complicated politically, andrea, simply because the american public -- this happened in iraq. it's clearly happening in afghanistan. the american public has tired of our involvement in these conflicts. this is not something new. this is something that has been long and coming. if you look at the history in polling at least of when that happens, public opinion almost never sort of sways back up to all of a sudden be supportive and think this was a battle worth fighting and those sorts of things. it's dangerous ground for any politician because of that. >> we are seeing a change with chuck hagel. this is an obama, hagel foreign policy going forward as well as john kerry, who you have three men there who really are not as committed, hardly, to overseas engagement, and it gets more complicated when you have so many insider attacks, the green on blue attacks, that that ha
you talk about chuck hagel. what chuck hagel's role in all of that, if et wants to be secretary of defense. it's a complicated issue, and it's more complicated politically, andrea, simply because the american public -- this happened in iraq. it's clearly happening in afghanistan. the american public has tired of our involvement in these conflicts. this is not something new. this is something that has been long and coming. if you look at the history in polling at least of when that happens,...
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senator hagel and mr. brennan will be assisted as they go through the process of confirmation in the senate by a number of individuals. >> do you have commitments for them to set an early date as soon as they return? >> the president as you heard him earlier today say he hopes the senate will take up these nominations sweleds the nomination of senator carrie for secretary of state as soon as possible because of the importance of filling these positions quickly to our national security. i don't have a certain date for you and 06b8 we defer to the relative committees. >> you talked just a minute ago about the president believes in diversity and he casts a broad net when looking for candidates to serve. during the campaign mitt romney was ridiculed for saying he wanted a binder full of women. what do you mean he insist on diversity? [indiscernible] and does he insist on other ways to find qualified candidates? >> without addressing any specific nomination process, i would say that the answer is yes, he speaks
senator hagel and mr. brennan will be assisted as they go through the process of confirmation in the senate by a number of individuals. >> do you have commitments for them to set an early date as soon as they return? >> the president as you heard him earlier today say he hopes the senate will take up these nominations sweleds the nomination of senator carrie for secretary of state as soon as possible because of the importance of filling these positions quickly to our national...
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guest: i guess we'll see what the objections to a hagel are. i think hagel is a sound choice. i think the president has every right to nominate chuck hagel for this position. some statements he has made in the past need to be aired. my guess is that he will be confirmed by a large margin in the senate. the secretary of defense does not make foreign policy. the secretary of defense plays the primary role of bringing our defense department to bear to the service of the president. most people believe his qualifications are sound. he was a decorated hero, enlisted man in the vietnam war. there never has been an enlisted man like him as secretary of defense. the issues he is going to confront our budgetary issues thehow well we can fund pentagon and how we can cut back on certain aspects of the budget. that will be very tough. i agree with chuck hagel there are some things we can cut. we need to cut with a scalpel and not a sledgehammer. the threats against us are serious. we need to cut the legacy systems and put in more limited amount of funds in the right places so we can protec
guest: i guess we'll see what the objections to a hagel are. i think hagel is a sound choice. i think the president has every right to nominate chuck hagel for this position. some statements he has made in the past need to be aired. my guess is that he will be confirmed by a large margin in the senate. the secretary of defense does not make foreign policy. the secretary of defense plays the primary role of bringing our defense department to bear to the service of the president. most people...
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i like chuck hagel. if he gets it, i'm fine with it. >> suppose your guy won the race the guy you thought would win. and he put boldin in, the strange mustache guy. would they have put him in there? >> i don't think romney would have put bolton in. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. that's behind us. that turkey's behind us. >> we got others. >> we have lived through bill clinton. whatever you say about bill clinton, he knew how to deal with these people saying shut down the government. go ahead. i'll have my pizza. you go ahead. >> he'll have other things. >> whatever else you say. what happened? newt looked like a fool. he looked like a fool. so can this president show that kind of guts? first you because you're for him. >> well, i think we're going to see the debt ceiling fight first. >> that's what i mean. >> he feels so passionately -- >> will he tell them to go guest lost? >> in the book i had out last year -- >> what's the name of the book? >> "showdown." the first time he got in his aides said
i like chuck hagel. if he gets it, i'm fine with it. >> suppose your guy won the race the guy you thought would win. and he put boldin in, the strange mustache guy. would they have put him in there? >> i don't think romney would have put bolton in. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. that's behind us. that turkey's behind us. >> we got others. >> we have lived through bill clinton. whatever you say about bill clinton, he knew how to deal with these people saying...
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and hagel last night? >> it occurred last night at the pentagon and it was on one-on-one dinner. it with was a good discussion. so it was more midwestern themed dinner with a little steak and corn then italian this go round. >> i don't know if there was wine. >> housekeeping on the karzai visit on thirs, will they hold a joint press availability? will we get any information? >> we will, of course, provide a readout with the meeting with president karzai but at this point there is no joint press availability. this is a head of state visit and more details will follow from the white house on the visit. that being said, the secretary and chairman do plan to have press availability on thursday afternoon. >> what is happening at the india and pakistan border? this time it is kind of a serious matter took place and fightings are happening at the border. according to -- [indiscernible] with president karzai coming here and things going on in washington and what is happening in afghanistan. what if india -- it mig
and hagel last night? >> it occurred last night at the pentagon and it was on one-on-one dinner. it with was a good discussion. so it was more midwestern themed dinner with a little steak and corn then italian this go round. >> i don't know if there was wine. >> housekeeping on the karzai visit on thirs, will they hold a joint press availability? will we get any information? >> we will, of course, provide a readout with the meeting with president karzai but at this point...
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chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets, decorated heroes and they were really close. then they started splitting over the questions of the use of force. then they split, of course, when barack obama ran for president. chuck hagel's wife endorsed barack obama when he was a candidate. chuck hagel stopped short of it. lots of republicans don't believe hague sl a republican, by the way. mitch mcconnell, leader of the republicans in the senate yesterday hold his fire, as jim was pointing out, hold his fire. didn't come out against the nominati nomination. everybody has their own po
chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets,...
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former senator chuck hagel is nominated to be defense secretary and our interview with then-senator hagel. >> "washington journal," we'll focus on president obama's nominees to head the defense department and c.i.a., jane harman will take your questions about john brennan. we'll look at the nomination of former senator chuck hagel to be defense secretary and then frank oliveri and then the center for new american security to talk about the relations between u.s. and afghanistan. "washington journal" live on c-span at 7:00 a.m. eastern. >> i think that that minds of the founding fathers is particularly dangerous because as i say, they were not a collective unit and presenting them as such tends to dramatically oversimplify the politics of the founding generation and comes to be used as a big batter ingram to beat people over the head which is unsound. , michael austin on what he calls the deep conservative flaws. he shares his views with david on book tv "after words" on c-span 2. >> a discussion on the role of capitalism by the chief executive. this this event is on the world outlook. >>
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hagel, the choice for defense secretary. later, someone from morgan stanley talks about his new book. "washington journal" was next. >> good morning here in washington on the sunday morning. rehearsals underway later today for the inaugural ceremony. it will officially get underway in eight days. it is sunday, january 13. the house returns this week. the senate returns after the inauguration. converse tries to figure out what to do on the issue of spending and the national debt. we want to get your comments on a proposal put forth by senate democrats to bypass congress, allowing the president to raise the debt ceiling. it also removes the debate on section four of the 14th amendment. we will focus on all of this this sunday morning. it was a call. numbers at the bottom of your screen. we also want you to join us online on twitter and facebook or send us an e-mail. we will get your calls and comments in just a moment. our question, whether or not they residents can -- president can't bypass congress to raise the debt ceiling.
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chuck hagel said it, boom. he also said one time as united states senator, my number one job is to represent what's best for the people of the united states of america. not the government of israel. they're criticizing him for that. i gotta tell you something any united states senator who says the opposite is a traitor right? >> good point! >> bill: yeah, the other thing, this is real personal with me because jim hormel is one of my best friends. he was our ambassador to luxembourg. he was the first openly gay ambassador. appointed by president clinton in 1998. i was at the state department when jim hormel was sworn in bid a lynn albright -- by madeleine albright and tim wu, his partner was there when he was sworn in. we were all in tears watching that historic moment. at the time, chuck hagel said he didn't deserve to be ambassador because he was openly gay and that sent the wrong message. he wouldn't be able to represent all of the people of the united states. i resent that he said that. he was dead wrong but
chuck hagel said it, boom. he also said one time as united states senator, my number one job is to represent what's best for the people of the united states of america. not the government of israel. they're criticizing him for that. i gotta tell you something any united states senator who says the opposite is a traitor right? >> good point! >> bill: yeah, the other thing, this is real personal with me because jim hormel is one of my best friends. he was our ambassador to luxembourg....
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it looks to me like every day, hagel is being up more support and the choices against chuck hagel seem to get more and more on the sidelines. how do you read it? >> they were strongest before president obama had nominated him because there were some people who wanted to prevent his nomination all out. now that he is nominated. a lot are saying look at the president's per rogrerogativeprerogative. he might not be my first pick but i will go along with him. you have some republicans that are saying they oppose chuck haggel, like senator lindsey graham. generally, it seems chuck hagel does have a solid sort of group of support and his supporters are, i think getting more organized and getting out there instead of pushing the case for chuck hagel. his opponents were mobilized early. it seems like he will take tough questioning but it seems more and more like he will get confirmed. >> amanda, i am curious as to what you think about this, you know, i really feel a lot of it, the opposition to senator hagel becoming secretary of defense by republicans is because he is a republican and they do
it looks to me like every day, hagel is being up more support and the choices against chuck hagel seem to get more and more on the sidelines. how do you read it? >> they were strongest before president obama had nominated him because there were some people who wanted to prevent his nomination all out. now that he is nominated. a lot are saying look at the president's per rogrerogativeprerogative. he might not be my first pick but i will go along with him. you have some republicans that...
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retired general stanley mcchrystal on chuck hagel. the exit strategy from afghanistan and his own career. >>> plus, show stopper. president clinton he should the standing ovation with his surprise appearance on "lincoln" at the golden globes. >> in "lincoln" we see a man more interesting than the legend and a far better guide for future presidents. >> exciting special guest. that was hillary clinton's husband. >> that was bill clinton. >> that was. >> it was bill rodham clinton. >> that's right. >>> and ben affleck finally gets his just due for "argo." >> it's an extraordinary thing in your life. these nominees are exceptional talents. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. thanks for joining us. president obama used the final press conference of his first term in office to draw a line in the sand on debt ceiling compromises. joining me now for our daily fix cris alissa, msnbc contributor of post politics.com, chuck todd, nbc news chief white house correspondent, political director, host of the daily rundown and question
retired general stanley mcchrystal on chuck hagel. the exit strategy from afghanistan and his own career. >>> plus, show stopper. president clinton he should the standing ovation with his surprise appearance on "lincoln" at the golden globes. >> in "lincoln" we see a man more interesting than the legend and a far better guide for future presidents. >> exciting special guest. that was hillary clinton's husband. >> that was bill clinton. >>...
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chuck hagel endorsed mr. obama in '08, and it is always so transparent, and i just don't think they can quit each other. and i'm sorry to be such a jerk about it. but they are just such jerks. and we have got to get -- why are these people still being interviewed on these sunday shows? >> stephanie: you are absolutely right. they are always very troubling. [ suspense music ] >> stephanie: he was not troubling during the bush administration, but now he is very troubling. >> he's trouble. [♪ mysterious music ♪] >> stephanie: clearly he is. >> trouble in river city. >> stephanie: right? >> yes. >> stephanie: totally. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: we played a little donald trump in right-wing world. a warning has been issued to donald trump. he said we live in a country where you can say anything you want as long as you don't harm anyone. but i think his personal life will corrupt what he does on the show. if he becomes somewhat hurtful, we'll figure out what to do with that? oh, now? >>
chuck hagel endorsed mr. obama in '08, and it is always so transparent, and i just don't think they can quit each other. and i'm sorry to be such a jerk about it. but they are just such jerks. and we have got to get -- why are these people still being interviewed on these sunday shows? >> stephanie: you are absolutely right. they are always very troubling. [ suspense music ] >> stephanie: he was not troubling during the bush administration, but now he is very troubling. >>...
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senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some guys, again, that i think were in pretty bad shape. the morphine and everything was used for them. >> you know, if i ever get out of all this, i am going to do everything i can to assure that war is a last resort. that we, a nation, a people, calls upon to settle a dispute. the horror of it, the pain of it, the suffering of it. >> hagel won two purple hearts for his service in vietnam. he also saved the life of his brother, who was fighting alongside him. hagel has also long called for cuts in defense spending. national corr
senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some...
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it's just chuck hagel. because, again, so far outside that bipartisan foreign policy mainstream. >> all right, cornell, what does this say about the president, that he refused to back down? >> well, it says that the president -- he's leading. i mean, this certainly -- chuck hagel is someone who fits the sort of description of what the president wants to see more of in washington. just reaching across the aisle. touching republicans. you know, reaching across the aisle and saying, you know what, you don't have to play this partisan political game all the time. here is someone who has been a republican senator from a red state who agrees with me on some issues but disagrees with me on other issues. but we can work together. he's someone who has my confidence. again, like colin powell said. so a bold independent thinker. another thing, here's it is guy who can be the first enlisted man who can ever be secretary here. here's someone who gets the troops. when the president looked at what the troops are going thr
it's just chuck hagel. because, again, so far outside that bipartisan foreign policy mainstream. >> all right, cornell, what does this say about the president, that he refused to back down? >> well, it says that the president -- he's leading. i mean, this certainly -- chuck hagel is someone who fits the sort of description of what the president wants to see more of in washington. just reaching across the aisle. touching republicans. you know, reaching across the aisle and saying,...
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what do you think of chuck hagel? >> i said it earlier in the break, if he's upset the left and the right, perhaps he's doing something right. for me, i think the confirmation process is going to be very important. i think that his stance on iran and israel needs to be flushed out. to me, even as a moderate republican, he's still perhaps a little bit too much of an appeaser and doesn't make us stronger or weaker. i this i it's going to be a very spirited confirmation process. i think it's going to be great theater. there's no doubt about that. but in the end, i think he's going to get it. >> explain to me why mitch mcconnell, who not long ago was saying hagel is one of the premier foreign policy voices and one of the giants in the united states senate. he stands with him philosophically 90% of the time. he's an indispensable member of the republican team. that was then. now he says, he'll be given a fair hearing, and you have john mccain saying, to allege that hagel is somehow a republican, that's a hard one to swallo
what do you think of chuck hagel? >> i said it earlier in the break, if he's upset the left and the right, perhaps he's doing something right. for me, i think the confirmation process is going to be very important. i think that his stance on iran and israel needs to be flushed out. to me, even as a moderate republican, he's still perhaps a little bit too much of an appeaser and doesn't make us stronger or weaker. i this i it's going to be a very spirited confirmation process. i think it's...
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>> shep, really no republicans jumping to hagel's defense right now. many were frustrated with him because he turned against the war in and iraq in and refused to it endorse john mccain in 2008. he stressed independence from the jewish lobby. critics biggest concern is whether he is tough enough on iran. >> secretary panetta, the current secretary of defense said there is a red line there over which we will not allow iran to cross. the president had different times has said the same thing. chuck hagel has said previously that he doesn't believe that we ought to keep all options on the table when it comes to an iranian nuclear threat. >> the white house says hagel has been strongly supportive of israel's security. they say his views are insync with the president. as you alluded hagel apologized for calling a u.s. dip openly aggressively gay 14 years ago. shepard? >> shepard: much less opposition to john brennan's nomination, correct? >> there do seem to be fewer concerns but that doesn't mean less concerns. 25 years at the cia before becoming the presid
>> shep, really no republicans jumping to hagel's defense right now. many were frustrated with him because he turned against the war in and iraq in and refused to it endorse john mccain in 2008. he stressed independence from the jewish lobby. critics biggest concern is whether he is tough enough on iran. >> secretary panetta, the current secretary of defense said there is a red line there over which we will not allow iran to cross. the president had different times has said the same...
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in the 2008 farewell address to hagel, mcconnell praised hagel's heroism in vietnam knowing how hagel saved his brother. saved his brother. referring back to mcconnell, not to hagel. >> excuse me -- >> especially the word "own" would have solved all the problems there. just one little word. >> a quick grammar lesson, grammar refresher, a pronoun refers to the proper noun or the noun before. if you actually look at that sentence -- look at the word his and look at the noun or proper noun before that, it should be hagel. >> mike, do you got a white board there? >> i love this. so you were the guy that listened in english class. >> we're so glad you're here. >> what's that rule, the pronoun what? >> it would refer to the noun or the proper noun before it. and if you take a look at the sentence -- >> wow, that's awesome. >> -- you'll see his brother, hagel, clear as a bell. >> what's a gerund? >> gerund is something -- it has an ing on the end of it. >> it ends with i-n-g. >> mike, can you conjugate the verb "brew"? >> i think a gerund would be highla heilmann digging himself deeper. >> i
in the 2008 farewell address to hagel, mcconnell praised hagel's heroism in vietnam knowing how hagel saved his brother. saved his brother. referring back to mcconnell, not to hagel. >> excuse me -- >> especially the word "own" would have solved all the problems there. just one little word. >> a quick grammar lesson, grammar refresher, a pronoun refers to the proper noun or the noun before. if you actually look at that sentence -- look at the word his and look at the...
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for hagel. and those discussions about he's outside the mainstream, we should have a vigorous debate of chuck hagel, then we're smear merchants? we say he's outside the mainstream and reason for debat debate. >> are there questions around israel and security and you can allay your concerns and even some republicans. >> i think over the next several years this administration has to be dealing with iran and syria and really complicated issues not just about israel. he should explain why his world view is so not only outside the mainstream of the congressional bipartisan congressional consensus, outside the administration's consensus. even yesterday in an interview he gave, he said the reason he opposed certain sanctions in congress because they didn't work. those are some of the sanctions today the administration says is key to the success in iran and why the economy is still weakening. he's saying those sanctions didn't work. he needs to explain. >> he'll have that opportunity. >> richard, you lo
for hagel. and those discussions about he's outside the mainstream, we should have a vigorous debate of chuck hagel, then we're smear merchants? we say he's outside the mainstream and reason for debat debate. >> are there questions around israel and security and you can allay your concerns and even some republicans. >> i think over the next several years this administration has to be dealing with iran and syria and really complicated issues not just about israel. he should explain...
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he led the fight and a reason we call it a hagel or the webb-hagel gi bill. our kids come home and go to school for free at state schools. >> tony, dianne feinstein, democratic senator, just came out in support of chuck hagel. >> right. >> but there are a bunch of democratic pro-israel leaders like chuck schumer, bob casey, frank lautenberg, carl levin who have yet to weigh in and might have some concerns and bob menendez, the proor the anti-iran hawk. talk about their concerns right now. >> i have looked hard at the statements on the internet and the blogs and what he's said. chuck hagel said my first obligation is to the united states. i took an oath of office to defend the united states constitution. that doesn't mean he's anti-israeli. i have israeli friends, i support the israeli nation and defending themselves. however, break dot-dot, you know, you have to look at what's best for this nation first and how that's anti-semitic i don't know and that's the issue as far as i can tell regarding the rhetoric of hagel. >> john, another issue of particular of th
he led the fight and a reason we call it a hagel or the webb-hagel gi bill. our kids come home and go to school for free at state schools. >> tony, dianne feinstein, democratic senator, just came out in support of chuck hagel. >> right. >> but there are a bunch of democratic pro-israel leaders like chuck schumer, bob casey, frank lautenberg, carl levin who have yet to weigh in and might have some concerns and bob menendez, the proor the anti-iran hawk. talk about their...
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that's encouraging if you're chuck hagel in the white house. but i would argue that the most critical meeting chuck hagel will have in the coming days is chuck schumer. he has to be able to answer the questions of the new york senator because he can bring along as many as ten democrats. i was counting last week his statement was coming out after the nomination was announced. notably, the junior senator from new york who takes a lot of cues from chuck schumer. several other senators who are beholden to schumer for helping them get elected in 2006-2008. if the most prominent jewish senator on the democratic side of is there, it could be very difficult for him to get an easy confirmation vote. >> ed o'keefe, michael, thank you. >> thank you. >>> just a reminder, we will have the press conference live here on msnbc that is coming up in about an hour, 11:15. >>> big night for the golden glo glob glob globes for politics. dab el day-lewis won best actor for "lincoln," jessica best actress for "zero dark thirty" and "game change" won three, including
that's encouraging if you're chuck hagel in the white house. but i would argue that the most critical meeting chuck hagel will have in the coming days is chuck schumer. he has to be able to answer the questions of the new york senator because he can bring along as many as ten democrats. i was counting last week his statement was coming out after the nomination was announced. notably, the junior senator from new york who takes a lot of cues from chuck schumer. several other senators who are...
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chuck hagel has a 95% chance of getting his nomination through. brennan and lew have higher percentage than that. what the republican party has been doing up to this point is saying that they have a fight with pretty much every single one of president obama's nominations. not because they are not qualified or not because they are conservative enough. we are talking about republican nominations just because they are people who have been nominated by the president. >> i couldn't disagree with you more. i couldn't disagree with you more. the bottom line president obama has shown himself to be a combative president and no interest in bipartisan compromise. these picks shows that nuclear iran is a threat to israel and he doesn't seem to think we need to put in checks important spending $16.4 trillion debt. i think the american public needs to know who is going to be running the president and executes his policies on day to day on fiscal matters and national security. i think this is good thing. i think the senate should definitely scrutinize it. >> art
chuck hagel has a 95% chance of getting his nomination through. brennan and lew have higher percentage than that. what the republican party has been doing up to this point is saying that they have a fight with pretty much every single one of president obama's nominations. not because they are not qualified or not because they are conservative enough. we are talking about republican nominations just because they are people who have been nominated by the president. >> i couldn't disagree...
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can you be for senator hagel? i mean, in some ways he was the chairman of your -- co-chair of your campaign in 2000. he would seem to be your kind of guy. a veteran. a guy who's been shot at -- >> he's a veteran. he's a friend. and by the way, in this process usually with previous presidents, both republican and democrat, when they're considering nominations they call in the other side and say -- the key members on the other party and say i'm thinking about nominating mr. x, what do you think about it? there's been none of that with this administration. >> the gop opposition to these cabinet nominations also comes amid some calls for filibuster reform to make it more difficult for republicans to block confirmation votes. >>> a new report out today says the u.s. is stepping up drone strikes in pakistan while preparing to withdraw troops from neighboring afghanistan. the flurry of strikes is pounding taliban targets and reports say thursday's attack was the seventh in just ten days. nbc news foreign correspondent ay
can you be for senator hagel? i mean, in some ways he was the chairman of your -- co-chair of your campaign in 2000. he would seem to be your kind of guy. a veteran. a guy who's been shot at -- >> he's a veteran. he's a friend. and by the way, in this process usually with previous presidents, both republican and democrat, when they're considering nominations they call in the other side and say -- the key members on the other party and say i'm thinking about nominating mr. x, what do you...
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chuck hagel has it. how can they even say that they have reservations about chuck hagel or what are their reservations? >> john mccain made the statement, i don't want to overquote him but paraphrasing, it is a stretch to call chuck hagel a republican. republicans say despite the vote that occurred since he left the senate he has been a republican in name only. he hasn't really stayed with the party line. if you look back as recently as this last election cycle, he endorsed bob kerrey, a democrat over deb fischer, a republican in that senate race. most of the ire and scrutiny coming from republicans when it comes to chuck hagel. views in the middle east. on iran, on israel. that is the point that many of these -- many of these republican senators including many who sat on the senate armed services committee simply will not back away from. >> as far as -- you deal with apec. apec is a very powerful lobby. they're not going to get involved in this nomination. that's a big factor there. hagel did not endors
chuck hagel has it. how can they even say that they have reservations about chuck hagel or what are their reservations? >> john mccain made the statement, i don't want to overquote him but paraphrasing, it is a stretch to call chuck hagel a republican. republicans say despite the vote that occurred since he left the senate he has been a republican in name only. he hasn't really stayed with the party line. if you look back as recently as this last election cycle, he endorsed bob kerrey, a...
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he said that previously about chuck hagel. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: who said hagel understands the world better than almost anyone. who said that? >> some hypocrite? >> stephanie: right. [ buzzer ] [ ding ding ] >> stephanie: that would be senator lamar alexander from tennessee. seem to have a different feeling about him at some previous point. senator dick durbin yesterday. >> a person has a -- include service on the foreign relationses committee. yes, he's a serious candidate. >> stephanie: just a little. let's go to howard in pittsburgh. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi howard. >> good morning. >> stephanie: good morning. >> caller: yes, i'm 71 years old. i'm originally from upstate new york. utica, new york. >> stephanie: utica, all right. >> caller: i was fortunate to meet robert francis kennedy and i worked for the airline up there and we worked on the kennedy airplane. >> stephanie: oh wow. >> caller: one thing i've noticed about the kennedys and martin luther king is that they had a word that -- to me, as a progressive democrat is empathy. and i find that -- i
he said that previously about chuck hagel. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: who said hagel understands the world better than almost anyone. who said that? >> some hypocrite? >> stephanie: right. [ buzzer ] [ ding ding ] >> stephanie: that would be senator lamar alexander from tennessee. seem to have a different feeling about him at some previous point. senator dick durbin yesterday. >> a person has a -- include service on the foreign relationses...
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as far as i know, you didn't call hagel to ask him. you didn't call any jew in nebraska and call the rabbi in omaha who calls the charge extremely stupid. you didn't call the head of the jewish federation of omaha, nebraska, that said the charge is absurd. i say this as a jew, we should have much higher standards than this kind of cavalier defamation of people because you didn't like one phrase they uttered seven or eight years ago. lobbies intimidate people. that's part of what they do. whether it's the gun lobby or health care lobby or unions. they're in the business of doing that. to say that because chuck hagel said it's true about the pro-israel lobby and used the term jewish lobby, which i agree is inaccurate which was also used by the head of the conference of presidents of major jewish organizations last december, i really think was extremely unfortunate and i really hope you'll think again before doing so in the future. >> again, you responded to my column by accusing me of being completely indifferent when it came to ts subje
as far as i know, you didn't call hagel to ask him. you didn't call any jew in nebraska and call the rabbi in omaha who calls the charge extremely stupid. you didn't call the head of the jewish federation of omaha, nebraska, that said the charge is absurd. i say this as a jew, we should have much higher standards than this kind of cavalier defamation of people because you didn't like one phrase they uttered seven or eight years ago. lobbies intimidate people. that's part of what they do....
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chuck hagel is a leader our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he served with honor alongside his own brother. when he was hit by shrapnel his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, he risked his life to to pull him to safety. he bears the scars from battles but in our name. this would be historic. he would be the first person up enlisted rank to serve the secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries to have been wounded in war. the first vietnam veteran to leave the department. chuck hagel will our troops the character and strength. they see one of their own. he is a champion and our troops and military family. he thought to give our veterans the benefit they deserve. as head of the u.s.o. he devoted himself to caring for our troops. having studied under the gi bill he helped lead the fight. having co chaired my and a.i.g. board he knows that our armed forces collect and lives depend on good intelligence. he recognizes that american leadership is indispensable in a dangerous world. i saw this in our travels across the mid
chuck hagel is a leader our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he served with honor alongside his own brother. when he was hit by shrapnel his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, he risked his life to to pull him to safety. he bears the scars from battles but in our name. this would be historic. he would be the first person up enlisted rank to serve the secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries to have been wounded in war. the first vietnam veteran to leave...
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chuck hagel is a vietnam vet, so when he accepted the president's nomination as secretary of defense, it was fitting his thoughts turned first to the troops. >> these are people who give so much to this nation everyday with such dignity and selflessness. >> reporter: but if he is confirmed, one of hagel's toughest jobs will be deciding how much to cut back the size of the military and the size of military paychecks. that won't be easy. >> despite all the conspiracy theories about the defense industry, it's actually a lot easier to cut weapons than to cut personnel costs. when you try to cut military pay and benefits, you run into a buzzsaw on capitol hill. >> reporter: if you count benefits like tax-free cash allowances for housing and food, most service members now make more than civilians with similar levels of education and experience. the obama administration has already used up the easiest savings in the defense budget, but it hasn't taken on personnel costs. as a veteran and a former head of the u.s.o., hagel might have the clout to bring military pay raises in line with what's
chuck hagel is a vietnam vet, so when he accepted the president's nomination as secretary of defense, it was fitting his thoughts turned first to the troops. >> these are people who give so much to this nation everyday with such dignity and selflessness. >> reporter: but if he is confirmed, one of hagel's toughest jobs will be deciding how much to cut back the size of the military and the size of military paychecks. that won't be easy. >> despite all the conspiracy theories...
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hagel or mr. donelan? >> you know, it seems to me that john kerry has been much more in the mainstream and sort of closer to where the administration has been. i think he has gone out as a troubleshooter for the administration on several occasions. >> rose: syria, for example. >> pakistan, syria, other places. and i suspect that president obama is not going to see in senator john kerry as much of an independent operator as we saw with, say, secretary clinton who pressed very hard with bob gates for a much more muscular expansion of the surge in afghanistan. she pressed very hard for the libya intervention. and i'm -- it's not clear to me yet that secretary kerry, if he is confirmed, would necessarily press as hard as she did on those issues. he may well surprise us on that. >> rose: she has high public marks for what she did as secretary of state. among the foreign policy people, what do they look at as her principal accomplishment? >> i think that the public marks have been a little bit higher, charlie, t
hagel or mr. donelan? >> you know, it seems to me that john kerry has been much more in the mainstream and sort of closer to where the administration has been. i think he has gone out as a troubleshooter for the administration on several occasions. >> rose: syria, for example. >> pakistan, syria, other places. and i suspect that president obama is not going to see in senator john kerry as much of an independent operator as we saw with, say, secretary clinton who pressed very...